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Post by kenny on Jun 7, 2005 19:14:01 GMT -5
You might end up paying royalties to Mr. Man for the use of that comment, Eric.
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Post by Eric T. Jones on Jun 11, 2005 10:52:21 GMT -5
Paying royalties for use of what comment? (never mind, I found which one)
Well, I've storyboarded the first third of the film, but there's a little chunk that I'll let Richie and Aniket take care of (as in, I'll be liberal with it, instead of being extremely anal like I would on other parts (there are certain scenes that I want to go a certain way, but I just want the songs and dialogue to be written)), including rewriting one. (once I finished writing the "Political Debate" number, I was extremely disappointed by it- if Aniket and Richie don't produce a satisfactory result, I'll just delete it. If they don't want to do it, that's fine by me- the idea looked good on paper, but it ultimately sucked.)
Judging by the material I've put in the film so far, though, I think 10 minutes would be a more appropriate estimated runtime. (with a 10-second intermission)
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Post by Eric T. Jones on Jun 16, 2005 1:25:32 GMT -5
Okay, I've decided to scrap the old idea, with some remnants of it (the opening musical number is still going to remain intact; that's one of the few parts I'm proud of, as well as the second one). What I want to do now is this:
Have the songs written and recorded first- THEN wrap a plot around it. I find it's a lot easier to come up with an idea for a plot around the songs, instead of coming up with an idea for the songs around a plot. And the plot I have sucks.
I don't want to make another **1/2 film. This time, I want to aim for ***. Aniket and Richie, you are free to come up with song ideas now.
As for the "Singin' in the Rain" homage, I'm going to put that one on the shelf- it's not really something I want to do. I might change my mind later, but for now, I just want to get what I have planned out of the way.
And, of course, I shall be barely involved with the process of coming up with dialogue- past films have proven that I clearly suck at it. I'll come up with the plot structure after the songs are written.
The musical numbers will be lip-synched on set, the lip-synching done to a recording of the number being played via boombox. This is to prevent anyone from ad-libbing anything stupid. It also makes sure that the lines (in the songs, at least) are done word-for-word. Once a script is set, I am keeping by it. I've had the problem of actors heavily changing lines and destroying the original context (and even leaving some out), and I am NOT having it with this one. Which is why I might consider casting some of Aniket's drama friends.
This might have been a change from my original plan, yes, I understand that. When most films start off from a mere concept, though, that's bound to happen- I just don't want to do a William Hung musical anymore.
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Post by kenny on Jun 17, 2005 22:44:02 GMT -5
Ive got a musical number for this one. But I don't know the plot. This one actually happened today. Its saying "Bring my camera" to the tune of Beetoveens 5th Symphony. (spelling errors, but honestly, I dont give a shit.) Bluesabre and I actually recited this over the phone earlier, and its golden. But it won't fit into the plot, will it?
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Post by Eric T. Jones on Jun 17, 2005 23:16:27 GMT -5
Okay, I've decided to scrap the old idea, with some remnants of it (the opening musical number is still going to remain intact; that's one of the few parts I'm proud of, as well as the second one). What I want to do now is this: Have the songs written and recorded first- THEN wrap a plot around it.Create as many songs as possible, but make sure they have potential before you unleash them. Just remember no unlicenced music (this includes parodies to the tunes of still-copyright songs); to classic music should be fine, though. (but I'd like the most of 'em to have original tunes) And the plot is still going to revolve around a main character who randomly bursts into song.
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Post by kenny on Jun 18, 2005 19:43:56 GMT -5
Yes, yes, we KNOW that the main character bursts into song, but we dont want to make a "sitiuational comedy," now do we?
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Post by Eric T. Jones on Jun 18, 2005 20:02:01 GMT -5
I also don't want to make a completely stupid movie. I'm not making one of those sci-fi comedies- I'm making a musical comedy, but mainly a musical.
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Post by Eric T. Jones on Jun 20, 2005 1:01:40 GMT -5
And a little rule for writing songs:
Don't aim for the theme of the film, or its character- I got one song from Aniket that dwells upon the main character's randomly bursting into song, which is fine. But only one dealing with that, and that's it.
Just write up any ordinary song you can think of. I don't want every song to talk about his Broadway Syndrome. What do they usually sing about in musicals? What do they usually sing about on the radio? (...okay, bad example) What's on classic rock? What's in all these other songs out there? That's what I want.
I'll build a plot upon the songs you guys come up with. What I have left of my original concept is just the first two songs, which are the film's introduction- almost anything can happen after that. However, I'm not going to have it totally random- it takes place here on Earth, and in Anytown, USA. I want to keep a slight bit of realism in this film's plot.
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Post by kenny on Jul 7, 2005 20:50:45 GMT -5
Music is hard to work with for me. If you can outline a FULL plot, I'm interested.
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Post by Eric T. Jones on Nov 8, 2005 16:34:23 GMT -5
I'm going to attempt this project again- this time, by writing out a straight script (which I want everyone to have approved first- criticisms included. I didn't get any for "Fight Ultimatum" or "Visions", and that didn't help in the end), and then finding the most awkward parts to stick musical numbers in.
The film, I'm going to make an effort to keep short- I want to submit this to MV Film Festival. As well, I just might find different actors for this- I want people who can sing, and aren't embarrased to show their real singing voices. Outdoor musical numbers will be lip-synched (since singing out in public is pretty embarrasing for some), but indoor musical numbers will be done live. As well, more can get done in more time- other people can pursue other projects while I'm doing this.
The other thing I'm going to try to make an effort with on this script is- G-rated. (yes, I can just see you all right now saying "Eric writing a G-rated movie?! Impossible!" ...well, if David Lynch can pull off a G-rated movie, anyone can!) My goal for "Visions" was PG, and for the most part, I achieved it (though moreso than I intended it to be)- but this time, I want something everyone can enjoy.
And this time, enjoy. "Visions" was, to me, grim, dark (I actually think it darker than "another walk in the park"), and my most serious film, but this time, I want to provide some light-hearted entertainment.
Yes, this is partly due to me giving in to my mum's request to make a generally-audienced film. At the rate I'm going, I'll take whatever limitation forces me to be a little more creative.
Oh yes, the film still starts out with Aidann being dumped at the car wash.
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Post by kenny on Nov 11, 2005 23:56:54 GMT -5
Adrian: Man! Washing cars is so boring! Because you can- Lose your mind working with lorrying-
Motorists. They are such a boreing crowd Which is why you need to spice up the day Not that it's sunny or anything It IS, however a time to be fun and gay!
So come on my friends to the carwash! It's a grand old place! Where buisnessmen congregate And hot girls wear lace!
Look there at that man behind the counter- He has a endlessly conventional life Without conflicting in-laws or reality TV No conflict of any kind or any strife!
The car wash is great, not to mention the gas, prices sky high as the skyscrapers bare But as the dollar inflates and the investors pockets empty, no one at all at the car wash seems to care-
So come on my friends to the carwash! It's a grand old place! Where buisnessmen congregate And hot girls wear lace!
(Guy with briefcase in backround: SHUT THE HECK UP!) Adrian: Oh, sorry. *waves to street and goes to the pump and starts washing cars.*
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Post by kenny on Nov 11, 2005 23:57:25 GMT -5
Yeah, that was entirely off the top of my head.
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Post by Eric T. Jones on Nov 12, 2005 11:59:11 GMT -5
Don't know if I can do something so massive-scale as a car wash scene, but I did enjoy reading it. Not laugh-out-loud funny, but has some wit to it.
I might change the part to someone other than Aidann, and make it everyone else there. (starting off with Aidann singing "I just got dumped/ at the car wash.../ ...and I.../ don't care!!!!/ no I don't/ caaaaaaaaaaaaaaare!!!") This would definitely be a great opening number. (although it would have lip-synching galore)
This probably won't be done in time for MV Film Festival '06, and I definitely need it to be more than 5 minutes long (so every musical number doesn't seem to end as abruptly as they start)- but short enough to the point where the joke doesn't wear thin. Like "Mozoukani" (the English title, I don't have set in stone), I want to take my time on this one, so the final product of neither one seems rushed.
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Post by bluesabre1 on Nov 12, 2005 22:05:32 GMT -5
Here's another song:
I am an anime nerd I read with my herd And we are the pity of the fit and the wity
I'm an anime geek My english grades reek but my math and science is oookay
One day I will draw a masterpiece for the anime fans just like me
But right now...I'm just lonely So lonely reading my manga alone But you know, that's okay because just one day I'll prove to the world out on my own
(Stands up and yells): That Manga is a viable art form! No matter what you say english teachers of America!
But right now I'm content reading my manga all alone without purpose...
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Post by Eric T. Jones on Nov 13, 2005 0:58:03 GMT -5
If I end up using that one, I'll have to do three things with it.
1. J-Pop style. Only way it can be done. 2. Done in anime form- yes, it switches to anime form as abruptly as the respective character bursts into song. 3. Absolutely mandatory there be karaoke subtitles. Absolutely mandatory.
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